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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Feb 24, 2009 6:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Although I don't disgree with what's been said above, I suspect that the folks at Rhino are not aiming these releases at us.

We're marginal in their eyes, since we probably already have nice copies of the show. They're more likely intending to reach new listeners for whom "May '77" evokes no particular reaction at all (much less "Winterland February '74"). There may be 400 of us over here carping about the choice, but there are probably 40,000 people willing to lay down $17 and find out for the first time why May of 1977 is a high point.

So I wish Rhino all the best with it, though personally I'm more likely to fill a Dicks Picks gap in my collection than to pre-order this particular show.

BTW, if anybody knows the press runs on these releases, I'd love to hear. How large is the current market, anyway?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 24, 2009 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

I used to believe this about growing the audience and argued the same point about the Road Trips release. However many of these releases have only been available by ordering through dead.net and I haven't figured out how that would be the best way to get an introductory release out.

I look at like this. Of course it's a nostalgia tour!!! How could it be anything but that! However I would rather pay $18 (plus tax and shipping) for 3 CDs of nostalgia from one of the many peaks in the Grateful Dead Mountain Range vs. pay $100 (plus parking and other fees) to be nostalgic with the current line up. Seriously, 18 bucks for 3CDs that are in HDCD? Where else do you get this kind of deal?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 24, 2009 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Hard for me to stomach most of the nonsense I've seen in this thread.

You people actually have a problem with a full show from May of 1977, in pristine sound?

Jesus H. on a hockey stick.

Go ahead and natter on about your Spinal Tap-like performances of a 45 minute Dark Star from some show in 1973 and yet another droning Weather Report Suite>Let it Grow from 1974, or a piss-ant 1980's show in which Jerry's voice sounds like a frog being choked to death by a cat that's being simultaneously ripped to shreds in a blender, or, hey, even better--some really "must-have" show from the '90's in which Vince channels his inner Roger Daltry to embarrass every rock and roll fan who ever lived trying to sing Baba O'Reilly and Jerry slogs his ass through another Black Muddy Isthmus and Bobby thrills the gals with a riveting synth-pop rendition of Picasso Moon.

If you can't appreciate what that band did in 1977, at the absolute height of their powers, and are going to grouse about a perfect release of a complete show with awesome sound, you don't even deserve to call yourselves Dead Heads.

Bunch of witless ingrates.

Oh, and Happy Fucking Mardi Gras.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 24, 2009 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Damn.

Outstanding Spinal Tap reference. Who can honestly say that after listening to a 45 minute Playin' that their brain isn't saying "OK, I get it, time to move on". Jazz Odyssey indeed.

Most every year had it highlights and lowlights, with folks seeing more here and there depending on personal preference. Personally, I think the whole band sucked start to finish and I'm only here to laugh at you gullible baffoons.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2009-02-24 17:06:09

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Feb 24, 2009 5:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Me.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 24, 2009 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

lmao!!!!

great post - funniest of the day thus far (and i did need that one)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 24, 2009 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Thanks, Dire...had a feeling you'd appreciate that.

and if anyone gets in my face about it, "I shall taunt them a second time."

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Feb 24, 2009 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77??

I like the 76 + min "Playin' remix" best, myself... ;)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 24, 2009 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Your absolutely right Grendel, exactly what we need is a seventh official release (eight counting Download series #1) from 1977!

I'm sorry, I just couldnt hide how happy I am to get an official release of such a well circulated Betty Cantor sourced show...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 24, 2009 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

I have to agree with Cliff on this one - if they want to release something, why not dig a little deeper? I've listend to the first set from this show today and while it's good, I'm not going to reach for this one very often. Besides, if you love 77, don't you have already have this? It's not like May '77 is an overlooked period of time.

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Feb 24, 2009 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

I'm still waiting for some 1969 and 1970 full show releases, a woefully neglected period official release-wise. As for "great months", and May '77 is undeniably one, what about April 69, April and May 1970, July 1970, or maybe a complete Orpheum show from July '76? I am still hoping for a 1970 Fillmore West release too. I have enough 1977. The $18 price for this '77 release IS nice though. I might buy this one.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 24, 2009 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Lookit--If they produced cleaned-up, enhanced, perfect-sounding boards of shows in 1977, I'd by nearly every damn one. It's my understanding that the Hartford show will be even better to listen to than the circulating Betty Board. Hell, I'll pay the $17 just for the cover art and to acknowledge what they did in that year, especially that month.

Bottom line--it's a great fucking show. I've NEVER been disappointed with a single 1977 release, whether from Dicks Picks or DL series or the Rhino stuff. And I'm very glad this is the full show they're releasing. My only gripe would be there are no bonus trax w/the purchase...but you'll never hear me gripe about an offical release from the band's best year.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Feb 24, 2009 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Hi grendel,

Quickly - 1st set solid from start to finish, but the 2nd set is not a strong one imo (for the year). S&D into an average Jed to start is disappointing, and the Playin and NFA are both below average for the year. The Estimated is fun with a few mini-jams, the Terrapin is special, as all May versions are, and the NFA segue into Wharf Rat is cool, but I'm left looking for more here.

I'm a big fan of the Mosque show, and I like 5/26 as well. I would have preferred a Road Trips.

PS - don't forget to check out the 4/23 matrix.

This post was modified by Death&Mercy on 2009-02-25 00:07:54

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 24, 2009 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Excellent point. If these releases do well with the wider commercial audience Rhino is targeting, we will probably see more releases that perhaps will satisfy the picky bastards inhabiting this little corner of the world (oh, that would be us, by the way). So let's hope this release sells like a mo'fo'.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Feb 24, 2009 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hartford '77!!

Of course, after April 7 I expect they will request that the free Betty Board / matrix here be taken down, since the show will be commercially available then. So we could pay a price for every show that goes public commercially